WMD – QB Point System

I’ve been in a few debates about Peyton Manning recently. Well, a few more than I usually find myself in that is. Either way, people always talk about Super Bowls. I don’t understand that, because it’s a team sport. Not only is it a team sport, it is the ultimate team sport. Though despite this, I decided I would make a point system for seasonal accomplishments: Super Bowl wins, MVP awards, AP First-Team All-Pros, and Pro Bowls. I say that that the accomplishment of winning one or more Super Bowls only solidifies the case for an already impressive career, however most people out there like to have Super Bowl wins be what defines a players career.

Everyone seems to think that Super Bowl wins is the most important thing when measuring the success of a player’s career, and while I agree that they are important for comparing team success, I think it’s absolutely ignorant to think that when comparing the success of two individuals. Either way, I will play their game and make Super Bowl victories worth 10 points. And because they are apparently significantly more impressive than MVP awards (somehow Tom Brady’s three Super Bowl wins is more impressive than Peyton Manning’s four MVPs) I will make MVPs worth five points. Then finally I’ll round it out by making First-Team All-Pros and Pro Bowls worth two points and one point respectively.

Let’s look at Peyton first:

Super Bowl wins: 1 – 10 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 4 – 20 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 5 – 10 points

Pro Bowls: 10 – 10 points

Total Accomplishments: 20 – 50 points

Now for Tom Brady:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 5 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 1 – 2 points

Pro Bowls: 5 – 5 points

Total Accomplishments: 10 – 42 points

So as you can see, even when the scoring system is heavily skewed  to favor Tom Brady’s accomplishments, Peyton Manning still comes out on top. Just for kicks, let’s take a look at some other great quarterbacks from NFL history.

Joe Montana:

Super Bowl wins: 4 – 40 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 2 – 10 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 6 points

Pro Bowls: 8 – 8 points

Total Accomplishments: 17 – 64 points

Steve Young:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 2 – 10 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 6 points

Pro Bowls: 7 – 7 points

Total Accomplishments: 15 – 53 points

Brett Favre:

Super Bowl wins: 1 – 10 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 3 – 15 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 6 points

Pro Bowls: 11 – 11 points

Total Accomplishments: 18 – 42 points

Dan Marino:

Super Bowl wins: 0 – 0 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 5 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 6 points

Pro Bowls: 9 – 9 points

Total Accomplishments: 13 – 20 points

John Elway:

Super Bowl wins: 2 – 20 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 5 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 0 – 0 points

Pro Bowls: 9 – 9 points

Total Accomplishments: 12 – 34 points

Kurt Warner:

Super Bowl wins: 1 – 10 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 2 – 10 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 6 points

Pro Bowls: 5 – 5 points

Total Accomplishments: 11 – 31 points

Johnny Unitas:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points (two of these are technically NFL Championships because they came before the Super Bowl era)

Most Valuable Player Awards: 3 – 1 5 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 6 – 12 points (There’s some discrepancy here… it may only be five, not six)

Pro Bowls: 10 – 10 points

Total Accomplishments: 22 – 67 points

Terry Bradshaw:

Super Bowl wins: 4 – 40 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 5 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 1 – 2 points

Pro Bowls: 3 – 3 points

Total Accomplishments: 9 – 50 points

Troy Aikman:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 0 – 0 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 0 – 0 points

Pro Bowls: 6 – 6 points

Total Accomplishments: 10 – 36 points

After running all those numbers we see that if we rank these ten quarterbacks we get a top ten list that looks like this:

  1. Johnny Unitas – 67 points
  2. Joe Montana – 64 points
  3. Steve Young – 53 points
  4. Peyton Manning – 50 points (tie)
  5. Terry Bradshaw – 50 points (tie)
  6. Brett Favre – 42 points (tie)
  7. Tom Brady – 42 points (tie)
  8. Troy Aikman – 36 points
  9. John Elway – 34 points
  10. Kurt Warner – 31 points

This means that Dan Marino (with 20 points) doesn’t even make the top ten list. If that’s not one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard then I don’t know what is. Because of this I think the scoring system needs to be reevaluated. Let’s make it so that Super Bowls are still most important (to keep all the delusional people happy) with 10 points, but bump up MVPs to eight points, AP First-Team All-Pros jump to four points and Pro Bowls climb up to two points.

Peyton Manning:

Super Bowl wins: 1 – 10 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 4 – 32 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 5 – 20 points

Pro Bowls: 10 – 20 points

Total Accomplishments: 20 – 82 points

Tom Brady:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 8 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 1 – 4 points

Pro Bowls: 5 – 10 points

Total Accomplishments: 10 – 52 points

Joe Montana:

Super Bowl wins: 4 – 40 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 2 – 16 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 12 points

Pro Bowls: 8 – 16 points

Total Accomplishments: 17 – 84 points

Steve Young:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 2 – 16 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 12 points

Pro Bowls: 7 – 14 points

Total Accomplishments: 15 – 72 points

Brett Favre:

Super Bowl wins: 1 – 10 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 3 – 24 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 12 points

Pro Bowls: 11 – 22 points

Total Accomplishments: 18 – 68 points

Dan Marino:

Super Bowl wins: 0 – 0 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 8 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 12 points

Pro Bowls: 9 – 18 points

Total Accomplishments: 13 – 38 points

John Elway:

Super Bowl wins: 2 – 20 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 8 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 0 – 0 points

Pro Bowls: 9 – 18 points

Total Accomplishments: 12 – 46 points

Kurt Warner:

Super Bowl wins: 1 – 10 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 2 – 16 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 3 – 12 points

Pro Bowls: 5 – 10 points

Total Accomplishments: 11 – 48 points

Johnny Unitas:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points (two of these are technically NFL Championships because they came before the Super Bowl era)

Most Valuable Player Awards: 3 – 24 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 6 – 24 points (There’s some discrepancy here… it may only be five, not six)

Pro Bowls: 10 – 20 points

Total Accomplishments: 22 – 98 points

Terry Bradshaw:

Super Bowl wins: 4 – 40 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 1 – 8 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 1 – 4 points

Pro Bowls: 3 – 6 points

Total Accomplishments: 9 – 58 points

Troy Aikman:

Super Bowl wins: 3 – 30 points

Most Valuable Player Awards: 0 – 0 points

AP First-Team All-Pro: 0 – 0 points

Pro Bowls: 6 – 12 points

Total Accomplishments: 9 – 42 points

Now let’s see what our top ten list looks like:

  1. Johnny Unitas – 98 points
  2. Joe Montana – 84 points
  3. Peyton Manning – 82 points
  4. Steve Young – 72 points
  5. Brett Favre – 68 points
  6. Tom Brady – 58 points
  7. Terry Bradshaw – 52 points
  8. Kurt Warner – 48 points
  9. John Elway – 46 points
  10. Troy Aikman – 42 points

Dan Marino is still out of the top ten with 38 points. So while redoing the point structure doesn’t fix this problem, it does prove that as I said above, Super Bowl victories shouldn’t be used to define and individual player’s career. So, kids, the lesson today is that you shouldn’t do the research for a post as you’re writing it, but instead do it beforehand and then write the post.

2 Responses

  1. I believe stating that this is heavily skewed in favor of Brady is a little silly. More to come. Just need to think about how I would change the scoring system.

  2. I don’t care how you change the scoring system. Peyton Manning will always be a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Period.

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